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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:35 pm 
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In 1905 the UK never dreamed of going to war with Germany. After all, Queen Victoria was married to one [eng1.gif]

In the 1930's no one dream of Germany again after the last time. Japan was a joke too :snooty:

At the end of world world 2, no dream of the Russians being a threat. They were our allies in two world wars. :proud:

Political landscapes change over time and military forces require a build strategy taking years to complete. The UK is nowhere close to dealing with both.

In 1905, Queen Victoria had been dead for four years...

Before the end of the war, both Churchill and Roosevelt had recognised the threat of a post war Eastern Europe...

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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:10 pm 
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Victoria son was a member of House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha :rolleyes:

Churchill and Roosevelt did little to stop Russian expansion in the east. The America even offer them funding from the marshall plan years after ww2 ended [9n5.gif]

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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:24 am 
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Mr Fishy wrote:
Victoria son was a member of House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha :rolleyes:

Churchill and Roosevelt did little to stop Russian expansion in the east. The America even offer them funding from the marshall plan years after ww2 ended [9n5.gif]

.. I know who Victoria, she died in 1901, not 1905.

Do you have any references to The Marshall plan being taken up by the Soviet Union after the war? Monies were offered to countries across Europe to rebuild, but I believe the Soviets blocked payments to Eastern bloc countries such as Poland.

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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:25 pm 
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No, didn’t think so..

.. and so to recap, we’ve highlighted how far modern warfare across the globe has come in the last one hundred years. We’ve highlighted how we’ve adapted to new challenges in new arenas, we’ve even established that Queen Victoria died in 1901.

What next, DOA?

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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
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Churchill and Roosevelt did little to stop Russian expansion in the east

Operation Dragoon was controversial from the time it was first proposed. The American military leadership and its British counterparts disagreed on the operation. Winston Churchill argued against it on the grounds that it diverted military resources that were better deployed for Allied operations in Italy. Instead, he favored an invasion of the oil-producing regions of the Balkans. Churchill reasoned that by attacking the Balkans, the Allies could deny Germany petroleum, forestall the advance of the Red Army, and achieve a superior negotiating position in postwar Europe, all at a stroke

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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
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The wider consideration was that by keeping the Soviets happy, they’d keep the Germans busy on too many fronts.

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