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 Post subject: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:39 am 
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So! Top Cop Sir Craig Mackie shut himself, and two minders in his car and watched one of his policemen get stabbed to death.

It was the right thing to do, he says.

Hmmm!


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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:52 am 
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I suspect that in that he is due to retire in a few weeks he valued his coming retired years more than a Hollywood ending to his career.

Not a good example to set the troops though!


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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:55 pm 
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Not his finest moment... he’ll have lost the respect of all those below him and though his friends will rally round him, his position, despite being up for retirement soon, is untenable ..

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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:53 pm 
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Whats the poor bloke supposed to do. He's an old man, pension age, with no hands on combat training and completely unarmed. Not even a truncheon to hand. His driver did the sensible thing and drove him clear of danger where he then took immediate control of coordinating the operation which is where his area of expertise is and what he's paid to do. There were armed and trained police officers on the scene in seconds who dealt with the ongoing situation which is their area of expertise and what they're paid to do. If it happened to be the prime minister in that car at the time she'd also have been whisked to safety as quick as possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:21 pm 
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Are you fcuking nuts [rofl02.gif]

Two trained Policemen can stop anyone unless they have a gun. instead, one hides in his car and the other is dead.

Even if Craig Mackie got out of his car and throw a stone at him, the other Police officer maybe alive today.

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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:55 am 
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fastcars wrote:
Whats the poor bloke supposed to do. He's an old man, pension age, with no hands on combat training and completely unarmed. Not even a truncheon to hand. His driver did the sensible thing and drove him clear of danger where he then took immediate control of coordinating the operation which is where his area of expertise is and what he's paid to do. There were armed and trained police officers on the scene in seconds who dealt with the ongoing situation which is their area of expertise and what they're paid to do. If it happened to be the prime minister in that car at the time she'd also have been whisked to safety as quick as possible.

""He's an old man, pension age, with no hands on combat training. ""

He's a cop of the old school and only 52 years old.

He's been trained, as they all are. He should have done better!


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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:54 am 
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This story put me in mind of the cops who stood by a lake and watched a child drown. They were following regulations; as were the firemen who watched people burn in the Grenville fire, they too had to follow the rule book. There are other examples.

So! Who are these snowflakes who make up the rule books, Managers who, having made it to desk level lose all motivation, break their promise to her Maj and generally make a nuisance of themselves, filling in the hours making up more useless rules and regulations to prevent the troops doing the job they are paid to do; as they sit, waiting for pension day.

I fear it is not just management, it is all of us, not me, who are beginning to think like snowflakes, oh! and not the men and women who actually still remember what their job is and do it with tremendous heroism.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:45 pm 
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fastcars wrote:
Whats the poor bloke supposed to do. He's an old man, pension age, with no hands on combat training and completely unarmed. Not even a truncheon to hand. His driver did the sensible thing and drove him clear of danger where he then took immediate control of coordinating the operation which is where his area of expertise is and what he's paid to do. There were armed and trained police officers on the scene in seconds who dealt with the ongoing situation which is their area of expertise and what they're paid to do. If it happened to be the prime minister in that car at the time she'd also have been whisked to safety as quick as possible.

Bernard Kenny was pension age, a former miner with no combat training, when he was stabbed by Thomas Mair, as he tried to stop him killing Jo Cox..

Though not being of pension age, 21 year old Lisa Potts suffered horrific injuries as she tried to protect children from a machete-wielding paranoid schizophrenic...

Both received the George Cross..

Mackey has a knighthood for “Services to policing”

... clearly not to police officers, one of whom, he stood by and watch get murdered..

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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:30 pm 
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Yesterday Ignacio Echeverría was awarded the George Medal for bravery by the Queen. He doesn't know much about it though as he's dead. He attempted to fight off an armed terrorist with a skateboard. A battle he was never likely to win. Armed police were on the scene in minutes and took control of the situation, including cleaning up Echeverrias dead body.

Mackey didn't even have a skateboard for protection. If he'd stepped from that car he would now also be dead. Armed police weren't on the scene in minutes, they were there in seconds, and they dealt with the matter in no time at all but this time without the inconvenience of cleaning up that extra dead body.


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 Post subject: Re: Top Cop bottles it?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:40 pm 
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Mackey did have a mobile phone.......and if you ram that in face, it's messy and not nice.

Policemen see everyday items being used as weapons and I'm sure Mackey could have done a lot more.

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