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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:05 pm 
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Politically speaking, the Jews represent the bourgeoisie middle and upper classes, directing, but not helping the common working class people. This is not something that has changed in over a thousand years. Like Muslims, they can be secretive and deal only with other groups, where it suits them. Being a religious class, and up until last century, having no country to call their own, there is no affinity to either state nor other religion.

Labour, by its definition, is a working class political party. It’s affinity is towards the group, not the individual. Jews will forever be seen as parasites of the toiling class..


That's the common eastern european viewpoint that started around the 1900's with a wave of Slavic immigration.

It's not the UK traditional view point and there are no stories in English folk law of the "Wicked Jew" unlike the rest of Europe.

Benjamin Disraeli was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in 1874. This wouldn't have happened if the Jews were widely hated at the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
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I'd like to point out that Karl Marx:
Was a Jew
Was a German immigrant
And is still seen as key figure in the labour movement.

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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Baby Gravy wrote:
tiggy wrote:
Politically speaking, the Jews represent the bourgeoisie middle and upper classes, directing, but not helping the common working class people. This is not something that has changed in over a thousand years. Like Muslims, they can be secretive and deal only with other groups, where it suits them. Being a religious class, and up until last century, having no country to call their own, there is no affinity to either state nor other religion.

Labour, by its definition, is a working class political party. It’s affinity is towards the group, not the individual. Jews will forever be seen as parasites of the toiling class..


That's the common eastern european viewpoint that started around the 1900's with a wave of Slavic immigration.

It's not the UK traditional view point and there are no stories in English folk law of the "Wicked Jew" unlike the rest of Europe.

Benjamin Disraeli was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in 1874. This wouldn't have happened if the Jews were widely hated at the time.

No, it’s been the widespread viewpoint across Europe for centuries. Do yourself a favour and stop using Wikipedia and google for your information.

And do you mean Folklore?

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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:47 pm 
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Baby Gravy wrote:
I'd like to point out that Karl Marx:
Was a Jew
Was a German immigrant
And is still seen as key figure in the labour movement.

Adolf Hitler was a Catholic and a Christian and formed the National Socialist German Workers' Party.. and he wasn’t German either...

What’s your point..

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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
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My point is simple:

You can't have a labour party that hates Jews when one of its founding fathers was a Jew :rolleyes:

All you can say is:

anti-Semitic behavior started after a wave of immigrantion in the 1900's.
It got worse after another wave of immigration in 1970's
With the EU's "free of movement" back in 2003 the problem flared up again.

UK's not taken in millions of Jews, but we have taken in millions of people who have a problem with them.

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fastcars wrote:
tiggy wrote:
Politically speaking, the Jews represent the bourgeoisie middle and upper classes, directing, but not helping the common working class people. This is not something that has changed in over a thousand years. Like Muslims, they can be secretive and deal only with other groups, where it suits them. Being a religious class, and up until last century, having no country to call their own, there is no affinity to either state nor other religion.

Labour, by its definition, is a working class political party. It’s affinity is towards the group, not the individual. Jews will forever be seen as parasites of the toiling class..

Thanks for the understandable explanation. I did ask Dong but he obviously doesnt have a clue what he's talking about (again).


And if you believe this load of prejudice you'll believe anything!


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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
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Feel free to enlighten me further, I mean, I have already asked you three times.


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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
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Baby Gravy wrote:
My point is simple:

You can't have a labour party that hates Jews when one of its founding fathers was a Jew :rolleyes:

All you can say is:

anti-Semitic behavior started after a wave of immigrantion in the 1900's.
It got worse after another wave of immigration in 1970's
With the EU's "free of movement" back in 2003 the problem flared up again.

UK's not taken in millions of Jews, but we have taken in millions of people who have a problem with them.

Your point is too simple... and where’d you come up with the idea the Labour Party was formed by a Jew?

Has someone torn a few pages out of your history books, whilst we’re it? Anti-semitism is older than you try and make out... easy example, York.

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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
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The labour movement did not start with start with Karl Marx [rofl02.gif]

The idea's appealed and fightin upper class Victorian and were soon adopted by the labour party. Just the thought of a Marx revolt lead to concessions and better working conditions for the poor [giggle.gif]

The French revolution was still fresh in their minds.

Now let's go back to looking at the Slavs again.

Watch this:



This is the root cause of anti-semitism in eastern europe.

This never happened in western europe, the Spanish kept the Moors out and expelled the Jews.

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 Post subject: Re: Labour in the dock!
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fastcars wrote:
Feel free to enlighten me further, I mean, I have already asked you three times.


There is a very good documentary on the Beeb at the moment on the lives of British Jews today.

I reccommend it to you!


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