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 Post subject: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:28 pm 
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The world is agitating presently about sexual harassment and what constitutes it, as it does seem to stretch from words to rape.

All this, jumbled together with PC and one can see the troubles one can get in to without a lot of thought.

Are we coming to a point whereby a man will be afraid to engage with a woman without witnesses and CTV coverage?

Here's a poser for you..........

I You are a pretty girl (HuH, YOU?) enjoying an irish ceilidh when you are asked by a bloke......

1. would you like to dance?
or
2. Would you like to jig?

Would you offer a polite refusal or...call the police?


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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:43 pm 
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If this is about me wanking into plant pot in front of Sgt Pepper and making him watch, you can fcuk off now [eusa_naughty.gif]

I didnt even know he was there :blush:

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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:52 pm 
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James Corden made a tw*t of himself..

..again.

https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/10/15 ... not-funny/

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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:18 pm 
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I've hear Butch Paul is up for his job. Paul was last seen being rammed into a wheelie bin and loaded onto a ship bound for America.... where the rest of the rubbish work on tv [9n5.gif]

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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:23 am 
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Baby Gravy wrote:
If this is about me wanking into plant pot in front of Sgt Pepper and making him watch, you can fcuk off now [eusa_naughty.gif]

I didnt even know he was there :blush:


You no want jiggy-jig?


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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:28 am 
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I have to say it seems virtually everything on tv at the moment since the Harvey Weinstein saga is about sexual harrassment.
Personally I'm quite concerned, not about that case, as I don't know what it is he is meant to have done exactly, I switch off when it comes on, and on and on. My concern however lies with just how far this seems to be being taken by those that are discussing it.
I agree with Dongs first post, men will be scared to approach women face to face at all soon, for fear of being accused of harassment.
This I think could have a two fold effect, more and more people will be "finding love" online as there's is less chance of having a sexual harassment case bought against them. (Unless it's severe online stalking of course)
This in turn could eventually produce both men and women who don't develop the art of face to face introductory relationship socialisation techniques, and yes, that would include flirtations, (which could be seen as sexually harassing someone if it turns out not to be wanted) and infact speed relationship processes up. My fear here would be a degree of growing to know someone at the pace previously designed will actually leave a hole in the foundations for the relationship. Possibly meaning relationships and marriages not withstanding time.
I'm not advocating sexual harassment in its darkest forms, or using it to blackmail or manipulate as is possibly the case with Weinstein, but shouldn't both men and women be allowed to express their attraction, via flirtations innuendos, comments, and sometimes it can take more than once to develop this in to a two way thing. An initial shut down from one party or another with this kind of SH fear could stop something in its tracks before it's had time to become a connection.
Personally I don't find sexual comments and innuendos in any way harassing, as long as it doesn't become stalkery or veiled with threats of physical harassment. It's like wolf whistles apparently they can be classed as SH, but they are just a distant compliment of appreciation, when and why in society should that have become wrong.
Also on the flip side, women are not above using their assets to try and get attentions. Any woman ever married knows how well that can work lol. As with a lot of things these days, we are going PC mad at the expense of freedom of expression. Naked women in art will be banned next, mark my words.

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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:06 pm 
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f politics wrote:
I have to say it seems virtually everything on tv at the moment since the Harvey Weinstein saga is about sexual harrassment.
Personally I'm quite concerned, not about that case, as I don't know what it is he is meant to have done exactly, I switch off when it comes on, and on and on. My concern however lies with just how far this seems to be being taken by those that are discussing it.
I agree with Dongs first post, men will be scared to approach women face to face at all soon, for fear of being accused of harassment.
This I think could have a two fold effect, more and more people will be "finding love" online as there's is less chance of having a sexual harassment case bought against them. (Unless it's severe online stalking of course)
This in turn could eventually produce both men and women who don't develop the art of face to face introductory relationship socialisation techniques, and yes, that would include flirtations, (which could be seen as sexually harassing someone if it turns out not to be wanted) and infact speed relationship processes up. My fear here would be a degree of growing to know someone at the pace previously designed will actually leave a hole in the foundations for the relationship. Possibly meaning relationships and marriages not withstanding time.
I'm not advocating sexual harassment in its darkest forms, or using it to blackmail or manipulate as is possibly the case with Weinstein, but shouldn't both men and women be allowed to express their attraction, via flirtations innuendos, comments, and sometimes it can take more than once to develop this in to a two way thing. An initial shut down from one party or another with this kind of SH fear could stop something in its tracks before it's had time to become a connection.
Personally I don't find sexual comments and innuendos in any way harassing, as long as it doesn't become stalkery or veiled with threats of physical harassment. It's like wolf whistles apparently they can be classed as SH, but they are just a distant compliment of appreciation, when and why in society should that have become wrong.
Also on the flip side, women are not above using their assets to try and get attentions. Any woman ever married knows how well that can work lol. As with a lot of things these days, we are going PC mad at the expense of freedom of expression. Naked women in art will be banned next, mark my words.


[confused1.gif] Good post!


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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:52 am 
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Another silly provocative DingDongBong thread.

Lone women being harassed by packs of builders shouting " get your tits out" as they walk to work each morning. Male deviants who press their crutches against women on the tube, or force body contact etc . Packs of drunken men on a night out leering over any women they come across.

Or the likes of serial sexual predators like Harvey Weinstein who systematically preyed on women over many decades.

The statistics for sexual harassment in the UK are quite startling and on par with any 3rd world nation and of course men like Bong dismiss it as trivial.


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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:00 pm 
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f politics wrote:
I have to say it seems virtually everything on tv at the moment since the Harvey Weinstein saga is about sexual harrassment.
Personally I'm quite concerned, not about that case, as I don't know what it is he is meant to have done exactly, I switch off when it comes on, and on and on. My concern however lies with just how far this seems to be being taken by those that are discussing it.
I agree with Dongs first post, men will be scared to approach women face to face at all soon, for fear of being accused of harassment.
This I think could have a two fold effect, more and more people will be "finding love" online as there's is less chance of having a sexual harassment case bought against them. (Unless it's severe online stalking of course)
This in turn could eventually produce both men and women who don't develop the art of face to face introductory relationship socialisation techniques, and yes, that would include flirtations, (which could be seen as sexually harassing someone if it turns out not to be wanted) and infact speed relationship processes up. My fear here would be a degree of growing to know someone at the pace previously designed will actually leave a hole in the foundations for the relationship. Possibly meaning relationships and marriages not withstanding time.
I'm not advocating sexual harassment in its darkest forms, or using it to blackmail or manipulate as is possibly the case with Weinstein, but shouldn't both men and women be allowed to express their attraction, via flirtations innuendos, comments, and sometimes it can take more than once to develop this in to a two way thing. An initial shut down from one party or another with this kind of SH fear could stop something in its tracks before it's had time to become a connection.
Personally I don't find sexual comments and innuendos in any way harassing, as long as it doesn't become stalkery or veiled with threats of physical harassment. It's like wolf whistles apparently they can be classed as SH, but they are just a distant compliment of appreciation, when and why in society should that have become wrong.
Also on the flip side, women are not above using their assets to try and get attentions. Any woman ever married knows how well that can work lol. As with a lot of things these days, we are going PC mad at the expense of freedom of expression. Naked women in art will be banned next, mark my words.

The difference between flirtation and harrasment, falls to the intended recipient.. a builder yelling “get yer tit out” doesn’t really expect the woman to oblige, rather his mates to pat him on the back.. what then, if the young lady dutifully obliges, and, in full public, briefly pops them out.. we’ve all seen the odd pair, find their way out of a tee-shirt at a rock concert..

Common sense (and it’s not very common) is the key.. if you’re drunk, forget it.. go home.. if your mates are egging you on and you quite fancy your intended “victim”.. think five minutes into the future... what’s she likely to say to your intended remark..

If she’s smiling at you, flirt.. if not, beat a hasty retreat.. and don’t nip her bum..

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 Post subject: Re: Sexual harassment
PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:33 pm 
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f politics wrote:
I have to say it seems virtually everything on tv at the moment since the Harvey Weinstein saga is about sexual harrassment.
Personally I'm quite concerned, not about that case, as I don't know what it is he is meant to have done exactly, I switch off when it comes on, and on and on. My concern however lies with just how far this seems to be being taken by those that are discussing it.
I agree with Dongs first post, men will be scared to approach women face to face at all soon, for fear of being accused of harassment.
This I think could have a two fold effect, more and more people will be "finding love" online as there's is less chance of having a sexual harassment case bought against them. (Unless it's severe online stalking of course)
This in turn could eventually produce both men and women who don't develop the art of face to face introductory relationship socialisation techniques, and yes, that would include flirtations, (which could be seen as sexually harassing someone if it turns out not to be wanted) and infact speed relationship processes up. My fear here would be a degree of growing to know someone at the pace previously designed will actually leave a hole in the foundations for the relationship. Possibly meaning relationships and marriages not withstanding time.
I'm not advocating sexual harassment in its darkest forms, or using it to blackmail or manipulate as is possibly the case with Weinstein, but shouldn't both men and women be allowed to express their attraction, via flirtations innuendos, comments, and sometimes it can take more than once to develop this in to a two way thing. An initial shut down from one party or another with this kind of SH fear could stop something in its tracks before it's had time to become a connection.
Personally I don't find sexual comments and innuendos in any way harassing, as long as it doesn't become stalkery or veiled with threats of physical harassment. It's like wolf whistles apparently they can be classed as SH, but they are just a distant compliment of appreciation, when and why in society should that have become wrong.
Also on the flip side, women are not above using their assets to try and get attentions. Any woman ever married knows how well that can work lol. As with a lot of things these days, we are going PC mad at the expense of freedom of expression. Naked women in art will be banned next, mark my words.

The difference between flirtation and harrasment, falls to the intended recipient.. a builder yelling “get yer tit out” doesn’t really expect the woman to oblige, rather his mates to pat him on the back.. what then, if the young lady dutifully obliges, and, in full public, briefly pops them out.. we’ve all seen the odd pair, find their way out of a tee-shirt at a rock concert..

Common sense (and it’s not very common) is the key.. if you’re drunk, forget it.. go home.. if your mates are egging you on and you quite fancy your intended “victim”.. think five minutes into the future... what’s she likely to say to your intended remark..

If she’s smiling at you, flirt.. if not, beat a hasty retreat.. and don’t nip her bum..


:thumbsup:

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