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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:43 am 
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Alan Turing paper on the "thinking machine" and the first computers of 1940's have little in common with the computers we all use today.

That's due to incremental improvements over the last 100 years.

You can argue the same with rail guns.

Let me say it again, there seems to be no real or original ideas for defences weapons since 1945. And we should be worried.


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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:28 am 
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Mr Fishy wrote:
Alan Turing paper on the "thinking machine" and the first computers of 1940's have little in common with the computers we all use today.

That's due to incremental improvements over the last 100 years.

You can argue the same with rail guns.

Let me say it again, there seems to be no real or original ideas for defences weapons since 1945. And we should be worried.

Clearly you’ve not seen the latest air defences on today’s warships, the radar that can individually select targets and despatch multiple missiles to take care of them. Anti-submarine defences that can launch fire-and-forget torpedoes large enough to “kill” that threat..

We’re a long way past dropping depth charges on U-boats and firing 20mm shells at Junkers 88’s..

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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:50 am 
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If you think about it there must always be a full stop on anything.
Like an apple was a crab and is now a red delicious or a Cox. Over the years it has been developed; but it is still an apple.
or, a mobile was once a brick but is now more hand-bagged size and is still a 'phone.
A thing is adopted for a purpose and, to fill that purpose, it will always conform to that purpose, not type.
Luckily for the future, there are still many things for which we have not yet found an answer.
Anti gravity would be a good start, like wot the saucers in our skies are using. [confused1.gif]


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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:11 pm 
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Tiggy sounds like a Polish cavalry officer in 1939. [9n5.gif]

Ok.... let me point out the main flaws in Tiggys argument :rolleyes:


We have no frking defence industry


Once they use up all those "multiple missiles", cant be sourced within the UK. Britain can't turn over manufacturing to war production due to the loss of manufacturing industries since the 1970's.

The UK can't repair its own war ships unless they import steel from overseas.
The UK can only repair the airforce with spare parts imported too.
The UK can't replace satellites that all those airplanes and ships systems rely on.
And most of our military personnel will get lost on the way to their bases once the sat nav system going down.

Right now, two weeks and the wars over for the UK. Britains out of weapons, parts and satellites with no hope of building replacements within the UK.

And this is without any new weapons being used that Britain is unpaired for.

Now if I can see this, so can the rest of the world.


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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:37 pm 
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tiggy wrote:
Mr Fishy wrote:
Alan Turing paper on the "thinking machine" and the first computers of 1940's have little in common with the computers we all use today.

That's due to incremental improvements over the last 100 years.

You can argue the same with rail guns.

Let me say it again, there seems to be no real or original ideas for defences weapons since 1945. And we should be worried.

Clearly you’ve not seen the latest air defences on today’s warships, the radar that can individually select targets and despatch multiple missiles to take care of them. Anti-submarine defences that can launch fire-and-forget torpedoes large enough to “kill” that threat..

We’re a long way past dropping depth charges on U-boats and firing 20mm shells at Junkers 88’s..

See the discussion above...

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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:13 pm 
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Which is what worries me when we go sending zillion billion costing great aircraft carriers off to face down the Chinese.
Why should they be scared of a huge floating tomb?


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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:24 pm 
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From what I'm reading, the age of the aircraft and there carriers maybe be over.

There a rumour online of a "dust weapon". All aircraft need air for their engines and if you can place a layer of dust in there way, the engines fail and there binded.

The "dust" is also rumored to be similar to "danny loins" hanging in the air for long periods without the need for power and carried by the wind.


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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:11 pm 
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Another 1945 weapon????

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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:13 am 
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The UK did use strips of aluminum to block rader back in the 1940's, they called "window".
This was drop by bombers but the effect was short lived.

For a long time the American military have taken a hard long look at nature and what's the main cause of failures on aircraft. Air intakes sucking in sand are an ongoing issue.

The idea of a "sticky" rada reflective dust floating over an airfield or port would render them useless. Even a battle tank would die after a few miles too.


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 Post subject: Re: Where are all the ray guns?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:34 am 
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Makes you wonder how our tanks managed to defeat the Iraqi Republican Guard’s tanks..

Oh yeah.. filters..

You don’t half type some shite DOA...

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